Vasavi Shakti had oneshot Akhilleus Kosmos, the world as Achilles knew it in ancient Greece (a planet containing 1 continent + oceans "without Counter-Force defense system") Where does this line between damaging her and killing lies and what is the reason it exists at all? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Cookies help us deliver our Services. The issue is that Vasavi Shakti has more than enough power to literally destroy the World(Ahkellius Kosmos has been stated and is actually shown as such in Apocrypha) which is beyond any real feat that any one in Bleach can do... and Super Karna is literally beyond his normal version by leagues(as an apt comparison, Karna could do nothing but get mollywhooped by Lostbelt Arjuna Alter, … goddess rhongomyniad (fate grand order) VS GenryÅ«sai Shigekuni Yamamoto (bleach) Thread ... Stella and Ozymandias Laser beams (stronger than Karna's Vasavi Shakti) , now its your job to prove that Yama's can survive the very first attack and also prove why she should die with her own attack . That said, you'd still have to inflict a mortal wound (or several). The EX Rank after activation is because its pure destructive power cannot be calculated. Arturia no esta al nivel de Karna, Karna es un servant top, ella no. (edited by Ti9MK97s) ... that can definitely block Ea or Achilles' shield Akhilleus Kosmos that may be able to block it as it was able to tank Vasavi Shakti. For me, I'd say EA is the most powerful when fully unleashed and pretty damm hard to block unless you have Avalon. As for who'd win in a fight, I'd rather not jump into that rabbit hole considering how fast this could spiral out of control (but I'm team Karna all the way). okay, I guess it can have bottom ranking in this matchup. Because Ea is flat out stated to be the strongest and oldest Noble Phantasm. The idea of Vasavi Shakti being EX while Pashupata is not kinda irk me. is a divine spear possessed by Karna, a spear of light granted to him by the Thunder God Indra in the Mahabharata. he's basically Dark Sakura in Apoc lol. Rhongomyniad(ロンゴミニアド, Rongominiado?) Lion King: If it hits her, but I don't see that happening since she beams real hard. Of course I don't believe that to be the case, after all, other Divine Spirits such as Quetz, who was one such existance from the beginning, or Ivan the Terrible, who became one in his Lostbelt like Artoria in her Singularity, were very much susceptible to attacks from normal servants. Could Stella cancel VS with its concept? Come join the hundreds of thousands of Masters on your grand journey. The bearer of the weapon is called an Astradhari (Sanskrit: अस्त्रधारी).. Summoning of Astra. That said, you'd still have to inflict a mortal wound (or several). Excalibur también tiene poder mágico al nivel de un Espíritu Divino, solo Vasavi Shakti iguala o supera eso, Brahmastra no. In term of hax how do they rank? "The goal is to make something that can match Saber's Noble Phantasm. At the start of the spoiler and !< At the end. But in exchange for her life, she can annihilate anything in existence. Normally the shield would remain but due to Vasavi SHAKTI being anti divine and the shield was a divine construct, it stopped the attack but got destroyed. ... Because the fight will inevitably lead to Vasavi Shakti vs Akhilleus Kosmos, in which case Karna is fucked because Achilles would still have his armor which he has no ways to deal with. The Tiamat which got EA's is completely different that the one which survived Quetz dropkick. Because Ea is flat out stated to be the strongest and oldest Noble Phantasm humanity has ever possessed. Godren. Why do you think EA is stronger? Log in or sign up to … She can't shrug it off, it'll fuck her up but not instakill her. Those are quite different circumstances dude. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Have fun and enjoy your stay. poor man's Ea then. It also has an anti-divine gimmick (not just in the game), which means anything with divinity is supposed to be even more vulnerable to it. I am confused. Also how about AAS? maybe above Enkidu's. You must log in or register to reply here. How would that turn out? According to Fate/Apocrypha anime Episode 22, we see how Akhilleus Kosmos worked against Vasavi Shakti. weird wordings. it has a pretty good chance of killing skadi and rhongomyniad yes. If it anihilate everything in existence then Shirou shouldn't be able to block it with his. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. Victory be … Astradhari. Personally I don't get how it won't insta-kill her. We also have to account for Karna's divine armor which lowers anything to 1/10 of its original value when hitting him. The point is that if Karna resorts to Vasavi Shakti (which he will) it's just gonna get matched and over powered before Naruto starts stomping him. Although it seems that Rhongo Bongo is way more mana efficient than VS as well. I don't see why not. Why wouldn't it, if it is what VS is supposed to do? Most likely kicking everyone's ass. ャクティ, Nichirin yo, Shi ni Shitagae Vasavi Shakuti)?) Whether Rhongomyniad could compare with Vasavi Shakti is up for discussion, though I believe so in my personal opinion. 74 comments. If EA was enough to kill normal Tiamat, then entire last part of Babylonia would look completely different. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. That was after Tiamat got dragged to Underworld, weakening her and after Grand Hassan sacrificed his grand title to make her mortal. Ea vs Rhongomyniad. The Majority of the people I've conversed with for some reason believe that she is super-über-mega-ultra strong and that she can't even be touched by normal servants and their Noble Phantasms. In terms of sheer firepower, which is what matters in this vs, "can kill anything" is pretty high up there. I think user's strength is also a big factor here. Therefore no. That is why I made this post: maybe there are some rules in place that prevent regular servants like Karna, who would normally slaughter Lancer Artoria, from killing divine spirits like the Skadi, Quetz or the Rhongomyniad goddess, which I am unaware of. I think the most succinct way anyone has ever put it was: "The Nasuverse always follows the rules, except when it doesn't.". At the end of Karna's side story, he faced off against Sefar and was implied to have won using VS. Karna was able to use it more than once in Extella Link, so it is a bit iffy on how it is a one shot only spear. Tiếng Việt| Tiếng Nhật| Nữ Thần Rhongomyniad Rhongomyniad - Ngọn ThÆ°Æ¡ng Tỏa Sáng NÆ¡i Viễn Cá»±c (最果てにて輝ける槍ロンゴミニアド, Saihate nite Kagayakeru YariRongominiado), ngọn Thánh ThÆ°Æ¡ng của Vua Arthur. If you want to compare those two then you should look at Lancer Arthuria rather than goddess Rhongomyniad. (And since I have an opportunity I might as well ask this: Rhongomyniad (performed specifically by The Rhongomyniad Godess) vs Vasavi Shakti, which NP do you think would come out on top should the good old anime sky-beam power struggle occur? ャクティ), Nichirin yo, Shi ni Shitagae (Vasavi Shakuti))?) To summon or use an astra required use of a specific incantation or invocation. The shield had its true name called out, then proceeded to DESTROY itself and then formed a miniature globe that consumed Vasavi Shakti's big ball and vaporized them both. La pucelle's descriptions are cool, but it doesn't do anything except softeing Amakusa for Sieg. Every rule we put out there is to be maliciously violated if the plot demands it. I just watched FGO Babylonia ep 18 and I wonder if Karna's VS is strong enough to kill Tiamat cause it is Anti-Divine NP and said to be strong enough to kill a god. oh. tbf, Amakusa is backed by Greater Grail. It got destroyed because the firepower of Vasavi Shakti was too big. Battle takes place in Camelot. https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/spacebattles-merchandise.398032/. Deal heavy damage to all enemies. Vasavi Shakti vs Tiamat. Antes que siquiera pueda sacarlo ya estará muerta por Vasavi Shakti, no veo el porque la insistencia siendo el OP en recalcar las mismas cosas cuando esta claro que desde el planteamiento del VS es para que Artoria pueda ganarle a Karna, cosa que es fácil con Lion King. The utmost secret Noble Phantasm of the King of Heroes. It has nothing to do with being Divine Construct or VS being anti-divine. Vasavi Shakti (Upgrade 1) 'EX' Upgrades after Rank Up Quest 1. Mind tagging the LB4 spoilers? Should have Vasavi Shakti in here as well. Harder than VS imo, given FGO's tendency for enemy escalation and how much Roman flipped his shit when she popped it against Hassan Village as opposed to Cu Alter limping it off. Writer : When the plot demands it. By using this Noble Phantasm, Ruler loses her own life after the battle. 2 years ago. Rhongomyniad fully unbound is easily stronger than Vasavi Shakti, seeing as Rhongo is equal to Excalibur, which can kill a Beast at only 7/13 seals opened. It's Rank and Destructive output early outclasses the endurance and durability of some Divine Spirit servants. Just a heads up that Excalibur and Rhongomyniad's power output differs insanely based on the seals. If it's an enormous blast of raw power, then it might be able to beat Ea. is a tower of light that anchors the layers of the World. I am sure by now you can guess where I'm going with this and I am sure you can tell where I stand on the matter, so my question to you is as follows: do you think Karna's Vasavi Shakti has the capacity to slay Divine Spirits like Quetz, Skadi and The Rhongomyniad Godess or am I being blasphemous here? Similar to the Ozymandias thread This is Divine Spirit version of Saber Lancer The combatants will fight 1 on 1. La espada en si es la misma, solo que IVOL para reflejar la inversion de Artoria. Discussion. Its designated rank of C refers only to its pre-activated state while the sword is still sheathed. If Vasavi Shaki was ultimate then Indra would have remained unconquerable with the aid of that weapon. Follow Except it did jack and shit when actually used, making that description extremely questionable. Veo un solo posible escenario donde Arturia gane, y es que se repita lo que paso con Gil en la ruta Fate, Avalon+Excalibur si Karna usa la Shakti primero. If we take this question at face value, the answer is very simple. So I started wondering where could Karna make most proper use of his anti-god Noble Phantasm. Assuming all their restriction are lifted, In term of pure destructive power how do they rank ? Maybe. pretty sure its some kind of divine construct. Humans can possess divine constructs just fine. I think the Anti-Divine property of VS just means it's a weapon that can actually wound a Divine Spirit/God. JavaScript is disabled. Rhongomyniad fully unbound is easily stronger than Vasavi Shakti, seeing as Rhongo is equal to Excalibur, which can kill a Beast at only 7/13 seals opened. Any Reality Marble they may have will be activated and they will have enough prana to last the fight. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Registrado 15 … It's EX rank suicidal np, which according to its description can annihilate anything in existence - something no other NP dares to claim. Deal extra Special Attack damage to all [Divine] enemies. This is slightly incorrect. Ea should be the haxiest one of the bunch. 'Sun Goku' being stripped off his Sayan powers, yet sending a still frightening sharp gLance towards evildoers of all kind. So, as you probably know, Vasavi Shakti is an "EX" ranked purely offensive Noble Phantasm that is said to be able to kill or destroy absolutely anything it comes into contact with. And if it wouldn't why would it fuck her up at all without killing her? 3 million unit of power compared to a few thousand by Enuma Elish. The deity invoked would then endow the weapon with supernatural powers, making it impossible to counter through regular means. Decrease Buster resistance of all enemies by 20% (3 turns). But if you think about it, any servant or Noble Phantasm will be killed or overpowered/destroyed after coming into contact with the Vasavi Shakti (before some of you start pointing that out: Gil's Enuma Elish is an exception because it destroys the very space flames from Vasavi Shakti would normally occupy and as for Akhilleus Kosmos, as far as I understand, although it did essentially "block" the attack and thus saved our beloved cardboard, it was completely destroyed as a result). save hide report. Because EA first sword? level 1. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. I lean towards no, but its probably more than enough to cancel out Excalibur/Rhongo with 6 seals down. But it was necessary to make use of that weapon to Karna as he had received it as return gift from Indra and to keep word of Indra it was necessary to destroy one thing by the help of that Shakti. Welcome to /r/grandorder, the central hub for Fate/Grand Order and all things related to the Fate franchise. Obviando que Karna sin Vasavi Shakti no se cargaba a Sieg, Arturia no tiene algo similar a Fafnir armor(sin contar avalon), así que Brahmastra Kundala basta y sobra para derrotarla, eso omitiendo lo especulativo que es la Arturia planteada en el VS. share. The authority of the tower is granted in the form of a lance given to Artoria Pendragon. Gilgamesh was designed by Nasu to be completely unbeatable; his ego being the only thing holding him back. Karna tambien puede ponerse a spamear Brahmastra Kundala y bloquear Excalibur con Vasavi Shakti (de ocurrir esto Arturia muere). So is goddess rhongomyniad, but you don't see anyone saying they're comparable. Not to mention, Karna summoning his armor back after using VS … This is less of a serious question, as you may have guessed, but still I wanna hear your people's thoughts). Arthur is a servant while Lion king is a full fledge divine spirit. If you don't know how it's >! 26% Upvoted. Wait a second, didn't you told me in another thread that Rhongomyniad is stronger than EA? If it anihilate everything in existence then Shirou shouldn't be able to block it with his. On the other hand, it's described as a spear of pure mortality, which may mean its strength lies in enforcing that concept upon … La pucelle's descriptions are cool, but it doesn't do anything except softeing Amakusa for Sieg. With regards to Vasavi Shakti, it depends on how the attack actually works. May 9, 2020 Quetz: Null Good dunks on Karna something fierce. 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